March 30, 2010
Hatch On Coburn's Viagra Amendment: He 'Never Plays Games Or Pulls Punches'
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March 26th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
I don't get it. Generally I am a Leftist, but why are you guys being so much against Hatch on this?
I don't think sex offenders (or anyone else) should be covered for Viagra in a public health insurance system either, and I think the Democrats were wrong to vote it down.
Or am I missing the point here?
March 26th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
@EmperorAtahualpa because any amendment accepted would change the whole bill and we'd have to endure another entire vote on the whole damn thing again.
they can introduce a separate bill on this if they wants
they're using this as political ammo for nov.
March 26th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
@EmperorAtahualpa
It does make sense. However that's the point.
The reason Democrats were against it was because if they accepted ANY amendments, then this special deal they had brokered, which would pass with 50 votes. Suddenly would have to need 60 votes.
So Republicans were basically daring them to deny the amendment against it.
_
That said, the bill passed yesterday.
(Without this amendment, obviously)
So this is old news.
March 26th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Well if Colburn and the rest of the GOP FEEL SO STRONGLY about this amendment…let's see if the continues this amendment NOW???? I'd bet EVERYTHING that I own that not he or ANY other GOP member DOESNT!!!!!
March 26th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Hatch is the worst.
March 26th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
Also, Coburn did not offer this amendment on the floor or in committee in the year this bill was being debated. Had he done so I have no doubt it would have been adopted. All this did for the R's was to give them fodder for 30 second ads running up to the midterms.
March 26th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
What would really make this tens times better is if Boehner had proposed this; I could see it now:
"No Boners For Boehner" Keeping America safe by being stiff on crime.
March 26th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Coburn is "one of the smartest guys in the Senate"? O-kaaayyyy.
March 26th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
@EmperorAtahualpa
The point is a Doctor would need to prescribe Viagra. Unless the Dr. knew the man was a sex offender, the guy could get it. Or if a Dr refused, a sex offender could get it anyway on the black market. Sex offenders are all about the power they have over their victim, not the amount of sex. A stupid waste of time to put an amendment in the bill. And would open the door for all kinds of other "can't have".
March 26th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
They should have also put in an amendment to prevent doctors from kicking puppies.
Do the Democrats really want doctors kicking puppies? How dare they turn such a thing down….
March 27th, 2010 at 1:28 am
This was put in there to STALL the bill and send it back to the house. Not to mention they also put it in there so they can say "Sen. ____ voted to give viagra to Sex Offenders!!"
March 27th, 2010 at 1:44 am
@EmperorAtahualpa you are certainly missing the point… they did it so they could change the bill which would make it go back to the house… it shows exactly who pays the bills at the RNC
March 27th, 2010 at 5:53 am
that's right, hatch is coburn's very receptive s&m partner.
March 27th, 2010 at 7:27 am
Yeah, you're missing the point. Think of it like this; an amendment to keep people living in England from being covered or an amendment to keep dead people from applying for breast implant benefits would have also been blocked.
March 27th, 2010 at 7:28 am
Yep, and strangely they haven't done it. *gasp*
March 27th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
So let me understand the logic here: Prior sex offenders shouldnt be allowed the satisfaction of an artificially engorged penis, but the Democrats refuse to make this punishment a priority in their health care proposal because of cost issues. Really? Seriously?
Personally, I dont give a flying fuck if sex offenders use Viagra, so long as they dont rape anyone.
March 27th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Not just that… but i heard that the Democrat's health care bill ALLOWS doctors to kick puppies!!
No joke.. Democrats refuse to make a punishment of doctors who kick puppies in their bill because of cost issues.. can you believe that?
Now we are going to have All doctors kicking puppies because of this bill…. oh the shame of it all =/
March 27th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
Coburn is smart?
March 28th, 2010 at 1:19 am
That's the whole point of putting forward 100% support amendments. To drag down the bill in cost so that other core issues become jeopardized. Hatch just gave the American People the correct answer to why obstructionism and amendment saturation is so popular on the GOP side right now. That's one of the few tactics they have left to try and compromise this HC legislation before it goes back to the house for a conf vote.
March 28th, 2010 at 3:11 am
BTW Hatch, just because viagra in not covered doesn't mean that sex offenders can't still buy it.
He actually keeps a straight face through this. Now, that's impressive! I would have had more respect for him if he had just been honest, and admitted that this is really a stall tactic.
March 28th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
when you're doing something stupid, just shut-up about it hatch.
seeing you try to defend stupidity makes me want to gag.
March 28th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
So erection drugs are covered, but these old men fight any woman's health initiatives they can?
How ANY woman can be a republican is beyond me. They are the most anti-woman party in our nation's relatively short history.
Then again, what do you expect from a body of mostly old men who likely need to take advantage of such drugs on a regular basis. I bet they aren't taking it for the purposes of pro-creation either.
Cretinous hypocrites.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
I dohn't know about the rest of you, but I found it really had to concentrate on wha he said watching that drifty eye of his…
March 30th, 2010 at 3:11 am
It's not about cost.
If the Senate makes any amendments to the legislation, it has to go back to the House.
There's no way the Dems are going to send the bill back to the floor for another vote. Thus, they cannot vote yes on any new amendments.
The repiglicans know this and it's why they are introducing hundreds of new amendments.
March 30th, 2010 at 4:50 am
this man is quite decent, not a troll, decent man…the reporter is just a bitch 'oh FFS how could they go against you???'
BECAUSE THEY TROLL MUCH, stupid bitch
haters gon' hate they said-…